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Do podcast interviews count as published material about you?

Yes, if the episode is about you, the show is major or professional media and you file a full transcript. USCIS has accepted audio and video since 2022.

Do podcast interviews count as published material about you?

Short answer

Yes, a podcast interview can count. Since March 23, 2022, USCIS policy has said published material need not be a printed article and can include a transcript of audio or video coverage. It counts only when the episode is about you and your work, the show is shown to be major or professional media, and you file a full transcript.

  • The format is settled: USCIS lists a transcript of professional or major audio or video coverage as acceptable evidence for EB-1A.
  • The title, date and author rule still applies, so the episode title, release date and host or producer must be documented.
  • Your own show, a paid guest spot or an episode where you only comment on your industry will usually not satisfy the criterion.
  • In four AAO decisions on broadcast, podcast and video evidence, each exhibit failed on proof, not on format.

This guide is for founders, researchers, engineers, artists and athletes who have been interviewed on podcasts, radio or video shows and want to know whether that coverage can carry the published material criterion in an O-1A, O-1B, EB-1A or EB-1B petition. It covers the regulations, the Policy Manual, documentation and what appeal decisions show.

Figures checked October 2026. Fees and processing times come from the current Code of Federal Regulations and the Federal Register; trend data comes from USCIS and Department of State releases.

2022
USCIS policy alert PA-2022-12 confirmed that published material does not have to be a printed article.
15 business days
Premium processing timeframe for an O-1 petition or an EB-1A Form I-140.
12 weeks
The longest response period USCIS can give for a request for evidence, so a missing transcript must be fixed fast.

What USCIS says about audio and video coverage

USCIS accepts audio and video coverage as published material, provided it is documented as a transcript and meets the same tests as an article. The regulation for EB-1A asks for published material about you in professional or major trade publications or other major media, relating to your work, and it requires the title, date and author of the material plus any necessary translation.

For years, the word published led some officers to treat the criterion as print only. Policy alert PA-2022-12, issued March 23, 2022, settled that point for EB-1A and EB-1B: published material need not be a printed article, and a petitioner may submit a transcript of audio or video coverage. The current Policy Manual chapter on extraordinary ability lists print or online articles, journal articles, books and a transcript of professional or major audio or video coverage of the person and the person’s work as acceptable evidence.

Two limits travel with that permission. First, the material has to be about you, relating to your work in the field, and not just about your employer. Second, marketing materials created to sell your products or promote your services are generally not treated as published material about you, and that includes seemingly objective content you or your employer paid for. For major media, the officer weighs the relative circulation, readership or viewership of the outlet.

The O-1A criterion uses almost the same words: published material in professional or major trade publications or major media about the beneficiary, with title, date and author. For a criterion-by-criterion view of the O-1A, see our guide to O-1 visa requirements.

When a podcast interview counts, and when it does not

A podcast interview counts when three things are true at once: the episode is mainly about you and your work, the show is independent of you, and its audience is shown to be major or professional for your field. The table below applies those tests to the situations we see most often.

ScenarioAbout you?Independent?Likely fit for the criterion
Featured guest on a major show, episode built around your workYesYesStrong, with transcript and audience proof
Guest on a respected trade podcast in your fieldYesYesGood, as a professional or trade outlet
Panel episode where you appear brieflyPartlyYesWeak; passing mentions rarely qualify
You comment on industry news, not your own workNoYesWeak; it is about the topic, not you
Your own podcast or company channelNoNoNot published material about you
Paid or sponsored guest appearanceYesNoGenerally excluded as paid content

Source: USCIS Policy Manual, Volume 6, Part F, Chapter 2.

Coverage does not have to focus on you alone. The Policy Manual says material about a team’s work can count if it mentions you in connection with that work.

Illustrative profile: one founder, three appearances

Illustrative profile: a seed-stage climate technology founder has three podcast appearances. The first is a full episode on a nationally distributed business show about her battery chemistry and how she built the company. The second is a ten-minute slot on a trade association podcast where she discusses grid policy. The third is an episode of her own company’s podcast.

Only the first is a natural fit for the published material criterion, and only if she documents the episode and the show’s reach. The second is mostly about policy rather than her work, so it adds context at best. The third is self-published, which fails the independence test, though it may still help show her role in the company.

How the rule differs across O-1A, O-1B, EB-1A and EB-1B

The four classifications use different wording, and the differences decide how much a podcast can do. O-1A and EB-1A ask for material about you in professional, trade or major media. O-1B for the arts is broader, covering critical reviews or other published materials by or about you. EB-1B is the narrowest, limited to professional publications written by others about your academic work.

ClassificationWho the material must be by or aboutWhere it must appearTitle, date, author rulePodcast fit
O-1AAbout you, relating to your workProfessional or major trade publications or major mediaYesGood when the show is major or professional
O-1B (arts)By or about youMajor newspapers, trade journals, magazines or other publicationsNot in the criterion textGood, including critical discussion of your work
EB-1AAbout you, relating to your workProfessional or major trade publications or other major mediaYesGood; transcripts expressly accepted
EB-1BWritten by others about your academic workProfessional publications onlyYesNarrow; a general audience show fits poorly

Source: 8 CFR 204.5 and USCIS Policy Manual, Volume 2, Part M, Chapter 4.

The criterion is one of several in each list, and the number you need differs. O-1A lists 8 criteria and O-1B for the arts lists 6, each requiring at least 3. EB-1A lists 10 criteria and requires 3, while EB-1B lists 6 and requires 2.

Criteria listed vs criteria required Criteria listed vs criteria required. Criteria listed: O-1A 8, O-1B (arts) 6, EB-1A 10, EB-1B 6; Criteria required: O-1A 3, O-1B (arts) 3, EB-1A 3, EB-1B 2. Source: 8 CFR 214.2(o) and 204.5, via USCIS Policy Manual. Criteria listed vs criteria required Criteria listed Criteria required 0 2.5 5 7.5 10 8 3 O-1A 6 3 O-1B (arts) 10 3 EB-1A 6 2 EB-1B
Source: 8 CFR 214.2(o) and 204.5, via USCIS Policy Manual

A podcast supports only one of those criteria, so plan it with the rest of the record. Our O-1A visa and EB-1A green card pages explain how the other criteria fit together.

How to document a podcast interview, step by step

Document a podcast exactly as you would an article, then add proof of the medium. Every exhibit needs the same core elements the regulation names, translated into podcast terms.

ElementWhat to submit for a podcast
TitleEpisode title and show name, from the show page or feed
DateOriginal release date of the episode
AuthorHost, producer or network credited for the episode
ContentA complete transcript, not excerpts or screenshots
TranslationFull English translation with translator certification, plus the original transcript
MediumIndependent audience or ranking data for the show

Source: 8 CFR 204.5(h)(3)(iii) and 8 CFR 103.2(b)(3).

  1. Capture the episode page. Save the show page with the episode title, release date and credits visible, with its URL.
  2. Produce a full transcript. Submit the whole conversation. A partial transcript leaves the officer unable to judge whether the episode is about you.
  3. Mark the passages about you. Highlight where the host introduces you and where your work is discussed, so the officer does not have to search.
  4. Translate if needed. Any foreign language document needs a full English translation certified as complete and accurate, with the translator’s certification of competence.
  5. Prove the medium. Add independent evidence of the show’s audience or standing, compared with other shows in the field.
  6. Explain it in the petition letter. State which criterion the exhibit supports, why the show qualifies and what the episode says about your work.

Timing matters. Under 8 CFR 103.2(b)(1), you must be eligible at the time of filing and continue to be eligible through adjudication, so an episode recorded after you file generally cannot fill a gap in the original record.

How to show a podcast is major or professional media

Show that the podcast is major media with independent, comparative audience evidence, not the show’s own description of itself. The Policy Manual tells officers to weigh relative circulation, readership or viewership, which means the numbers have to be compared with something.

For a general audience show, that usually means third-party data on downloads, listeners or chart position, alongside data for comparable shows. For a professional or trade podcast, the question is the intended audience: who the show is made for and how it is regarded in your field. A show from a national broadcaster or leading professional body is easier to establish, but the record still has to prove it.

Appeal decisions show the limits. In a January 2020 decision, a station ranking built from Yelp reviews and social media follower counts did not establish major media status.

The microphone stopped being the question in 2022. What decides a podcast exhibit now is whether the episode is about you, whether the show is proven to matter, and whether the transcript is complete.

What appeal decisions show about podcast and broadcast evidence

Non-precedent decisions of the Administrative Appeals Office do not bind other cases, but they show how officers read this evidence. In four AAO decisions on broadcast, podcast and video evidence, each exhibit failed on proof, not on format.

DecisionEvidenceWhy it fell short
Sept. 26, 2018, broadcast journalistPodcast episodePartial transcript, recorded after filing, unclear if about him, site not shown to be major
Feb. 25, 2021, dermatologistTV appearances on YouTubeScreenshots without transcripts; no complete translated transcripts
Apr. 27, 2021, musicianTV interview streamed on YouTubeBroadcaster’s own site insufficient; unclear if it aired as a show
Apr. 30, 2021, artistTelevised interviewsTranscripts accepted in principle; shows not proven to be major media

Source: USCIS AAO non-precedent decisions, 2018 to 2021.

The April 30, 2021 decision is worth noting. The service center had said screen prints and transcripts of televised interviews do not meet the plain language of the regulation. The AAO disagreed with that reading, then dismissed the appeal anyway because the record did not prove the shows were major media. Format was accepted; proof was missing.

Once three criteria are met, officers weigh the whole record; see the Kazarian two-step.

Costs, timing and the numbers behind the decision

Government fees are the same whatever evidence you submit, and the timing rules make it worth getting the podcast exhibit right before filing. An O-1 petition costs $1,055 plus the Asylum Program Fee, and an EB-1A Form I-140 costs $715 plus that fee. Premium processing rose to $2,965 on March 1, 2026, from $2,805.

FeeO-1 (Form I-129)EB-1A (Form I-140)
Base filing fee$1,055$715
Asylum Program Fee$600 ($300 small employer, $0 nonprofit)$600 ($300 small employer, $0 nonprofit)
Premium processing (Form I-907)$2,965$2,965
Premium timeframe15 business days15 business days
Total with premium, standard rate$4,620$4,280

Source: 8 CFR 106.2, 8 CFR 106.4 and 91 Fed. Reg. 1059, January 12, 2026. Totals are Einstein Visa Experts arithmetic from these fees.

Premium processing speeds up the decision, not the standard. If USCIS issues a request for evidence about your podcast exhibits, the clock stops, and the longest response period it can give is 12 weeks.

Scrutiny has also risen. The EB-1A denial rate was 26.1% in Q1 FY2022 and 25.3% in Q1 FY2025, then reached 46.6% in Q4 FY2025, a rise of 21.3 percentage points within one fiscal year. Pending EB-1A petitions grew from 5,925 to 21,157 over the same span, about 3.6 times as many.

EB-1A petition denial rate by quarter EB-1A petition denial rate by quarter. EB-1A denial rate: Q1 FY2022 26.1%, Q1 FY2025 25.3%, Q4 FY2025 46.6%. Source: American Immigration Council analysis of USCIS data, August 2026. EB-1A petition denial rate by quarter 0% 12.5% 25% 37.5% 50% Q1 FY2022 Q1 FY2025 Q4 FY2025 46.6%
Source: American Immigration Council analysis of USCIS data, August 2026

Demand for the O-1 keeps the bar high as well. The State Department issued 8,838 O-1 visas in FY2020 and 19,457 in FY2024, about 2.2 times as many, with FY2024 up 2.4% on the 18,994 issued in FY2023.

O-1 visas issued by fiscal year O-1 visas issued by fiscal year. FY2020: 8,838; FY2021: 7,294; FY2022: 19,102; FY2023: 18,994; FY2024: 19,457. Source: U.S. Department of State, Report of the Visa Office 2024, Table XV(B). O-1 visas issued by fiscal year FY2020 8,838 FY2021 7,294 FY2022 19,102 FY2023 18,994 FY2024 19,457
Source: U.S. Department of State, Report of the Visa Office 2024, Table XV(B)

How it changes by field

Founders and startup executives

Founders are the most frequent podcast guests, and the most exposed to the independence test. An episode on a respected business or venture show about how you built the company can work well. Appearances arranged by your own PR team, sponsored slots and your company’s own podcast are weaker, because the Policy Manual excludes marketing and paid content. Our page for founders and startup executives covers which press tends to carry weight.

Researchers and scientists

For researchers, the classification matters most. Under EB-1B the criterion covers only professional publications written by others about your academic work, so a general audience science podcast is a weak fit. Under EB-1A or O-1A, a feature on a show produced by a major science publisher or broadcaster, centered on your findings, can qualify. Our researchers and scientists page explains how this fits with citations and peer review.

Engineers and tech professionals

Engineers are often invited to explain a technology rather than their own role in it. A deep technical interview on a leading developer or industry podcast can qualify if the episode is about the system you built and your part in it. See our page for engineers and tech professionals.

Artists and creatives

Artists have the most flexible rule. The O-1B criterion covers critical reviews or other published materials by or about you in major newspapers, trade journals, magazines or other publications, so a podcast that reviews or discusses your work can fit well. Recognition still has to be national or international. Our artists and creatives page covers building a press record.

Athletes

Athletes often appear on sports radio, broadcast segments and podcasts. The 2018 AAO decision is a direct warning: the petitioner could not show whether the podcast was about him or whether he was commenting on a tennis tournament. Interviews about your own results, career and standing are what count. Our athletes page covers the other criteria athletes rely on.

Common mistakes with podcast evidence

  • Filing screenshots instead of transcripts. The AAO has held that still images without transcripts are not sufficient.
  • Submitting a partial transcript. Without the full conversation, the officer cannot confirm the episode is about you.
  • Relying on the show’s own claims. A broadcaster’s description of itself is not independent proof of major media status.
  • Counting your own channel. Self-published or company content is not published material about you.
  • Using paid appearances. Sponsored or pay to appear episodes fall under the paid content exclusion.
  • Leaving translations incomplete. Foreign language episodes need full certified translations and the original transcript.

If you have already received a request for evidence on this criterion, our RFE response work focuses on rebuilding the exhibit with the missing proof. If your coverage is thin, profile building looks at legitimate ways to strengthen the record before you file.

Frequently asked questions

Does a YouTube video interview count the same way as a podcast?

Yes, the same tests apply. USCIS accepts a transcript of professional or major audio or video coverage, whether the recording is audio only or video. The interview must be about you and your work, the channel or show must be shown to be major or professional media, and the exhibit should include a full transcript rather than screenshots of the video page.

Does the transcript itself need to be certified?

An English language transcript does not need a translator certification, but it should be complete and match the recording. If the episode is in another language, you need a full English translation certified as complete and accurate, the translator’s certification of competence, and the original language transcript.

How many podcast interviews do I need?

The regulations set no number. The criterion asks for published material about you, and one strong, well documented feature on a major show can carry more weight than several brief appearances. What matters is that the record, taken together, shows recognition at the level your classification requires.

Can I use a podcast I host?

Not as published material about you, because your own show is not independent coverage. Hosting a respected show can still be relevant elsewhere, for example as part of your role or influence in the field, and officers may consider relevant evidence in the totality of the record.

What counts as the author of a podcast?

Treat the host, producer or network credited for the episode as the author, and the episode title as the title. The regulation requires title, date and author for O-1A, EB-1A and EB-1B, so document all three from the show page or feed.

Can a podcast help if it does not meet the criterion?

Yes. USCIS weighs the totality of the evidence in the final review, and officers may consider relevant evidence even when it does not fit a listed criterion. A podcast that falls short as published material can still add context about your standing.

Talking it through

If you have podcast, radio or video coverage, a consultation starts by sorting it: which episodes are about you, which shows can be proven to be major or professional media, and which appearances belong under another criterion or in the overall narrative. We then map that coverage against the criteria for your classification and identify any documentation gaps, from missing transcripts to audience evidence.

When the record is ready, we prepare the full petition, and it is reviewed, signed and filed by an independent licensed immigration attorney. To see where your coverage stands, book a consultation.

Sources

  1. USCIS, Policy Alert PA-2022-12, Qualifying Published Material and Scope of Leading or Critical Role (March 23, 2022)
  2. USCIS Policy Manual, Volume 6, Part F, Chapter 2, Extraordinary Ability (current)
  3. USCIS Policy Manual, Volume 2, Part M, Chapter 4, O-1 Beneficiaries (current)
  4. eCFR, 8 CFR 204.5, Petitions for employment-based immigrants (current)
  5. eCFR, 8 CFR 103.2, Submission and adjudication of benefit requests (current)
  6. eCFR, 8 CFR 106.2, Fees (current)
  7. eCFR, 8 CFR 106.4, Premium processing service (current)
  8. Federal Register, Adjustment to Premium Processing Fees, 91 Fed. Reg. 1059 (January 12, 2026)
  9. American Immigration Council, From Petition to Permanent Residence: A Decade of USCIS Filing, Processing, and Backlog Trends (August 2026)
  10. U.S. Department of State, Report of the Visa Office 2024, Table XV(B), Nonimmigrant Visas Issued by Classification, FY2020 to FY2024
  11. USCIS AAO, Matter of C-A-F-G-, non-precedent decision (September 26, 2018)
  12. USCIS AAO, In Re: 13189151, non-precedent decision (February 25, 2021)
  13. USCIS AAO, In Re: 14278047, non-precedent decision (April 27, 2021)
  14. USCIS AAO, In Re: 16949516, non-precedent decision (April 30, 2021)
  15. USCIS AAO, In Re: 5566576, non-precedent decision (January 29, 2020)
Key takeaway

A podcast interview counts when it is about you, the show is proven major or professional media, and the full transcript is filed.

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